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  Jesus is not Michael the Archangel here is why

  by paradisebeauty in

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  one of the biggest missunderstanding and unbiblical teaching of the jw's is that jesus is michael the archangel.

  here is what proffessor anthony buzzard has to say about this:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqzffyxno0.

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  zombie dub

  Arguing about this is like arguing over what age Peter Pan was when he defeated Captain Hook, and was Hook really eaten by a crocodile.
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  The Assyrian started to attack from Australia

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. scandals

  the gb has been preparing the flock for the assyrian's attack, that now is starting from australia:.

  elders, you can learn some helpful lessons from what we have just discussed: (1) the best thing you can do to prepare for the future attack of the assyrian is to strengthen your faith in god and help your brothers to do the same.

  (2) when the assyrian attacks, you must be completely convinced that jehovah will save us.

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  "the Assyrian" hahahaha
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  Surely you agree that an officer does have the authority to physically restrain, using appropriate force, a non-complying citizen.

  Depends on the circumstance, in this case
  

  1) The child had done nothing that required physical force, let alone assault, body slamming and handcuffs, yea maybe for an armed robber? For this - madness

  2) Depends what the non-compliance is for, if the officer is being unreasonable or telling someone to do something they have no obligation to do, then no, I don't think the office should be laying a finger on them and should get on with their job - it then becomes harassment

  Sorry, I didn't see your 2nd question, I wasn't evading:

  Should US citizens show respect for US authorities and comply with orders?

  Again it depends what the order is, if it's reasonable and in public interest, sure, if it's an officer on a power trip - no. I say again, police are public servants, not god figures that can tell people to do whatever they feel like and expect them to do it, *just because* they are police. Police are there to serve, protect and uphold the law, not be beyond it.

  Respect should be shown if it is earned, wearing a police badge does not give anyone the right to respect, their actions show if they deserve it or not. Office Rambo deserves zero respect, the man is nothing more than a thug, who happens to be wearing a uniform.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Not in the USofA

  I did google what I stated before posting, and from reputable sources and Wikipedia from that I could make out that was the case. But I don't live there, so I fully admit that I have no great knowledge of the system.

  Regardless of the laws, from the perspective of a human being, It is completely f***ed up that an officer can assault and handcuff a young girl for pretty much nothing though, and that be fine because "he has authority". I say again, the USA is an Orwellian, totalitarian police state.
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  officers of the law have authority over citizens, and so can make reasonable demands of those citizens.

  Officers are citizens, and also public servants. They have no authority over the public *unless* someone is committing or suspected of committing a crime. Slamming someone to the ground and handcuffing them is only an appropriate response if someone is committing or suspected of committing a serious crime. Pretty obvious to anyone with eyes this was not the case

  What do you think should happen to the officer?

  Fired and tried for assault. The USA is so messed up no doubt people will praise him though
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  Respect is a two way deal - quite right. The officer only lost self-control because of the lack of respect shown to authority by multiple youths.

  Oh god, the lack of logic is baffling

  1) The officer was on a power trip demanding things of them, this shows disrespect

  2) A trained officer should have self control, discipline and be "the bigger person" when it comes to showing respect, more so than you can or should expect from a 13/14 year old child.

  3) There is a long history of police brutality, this will be a factor in any public perception, and therefore respect earned/showed. This is a factor far before this confrontation.

  Office Rambo starting off with a barrel roll and going in all guns blazing is hardly cultivating an atmosphere of mutual respect
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  Had the girl had some respect for authority from the outset and calmly complied with orders

  How do you expect anyone to have respect for someone that acts like that? Respect is a two way deal. That office deserves no respect, and it's little wonder the police as a whole don't have the respect of some people when so many of their members act so badly and with so little respect to the public
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
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  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  Generally if you violently assault someone and pull a gun on people you will be charged for it, there should be no exception here.

  Spot on!! People need to stop thinking Police have special rules, they are also humans, and they are public servants, they have no special rights over other humans.
  
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  So glad I don't live there! Seems such a nasty Orwellian, totalitarian police state - this isn't the first time this has been said on this thread. Yes, out-of-control police officers deserve to be punished. But can we please stop referring to the USA as a police state? Prime examples of real-life police states are North Korea and Saudi Arabia.

  Despite all the country's faults, US citizens enjoy freedoms that people in other countries can only dream about.

  The US is demonstratively an Orwellian Police state, the government actively spies on its citizens (and many other countries), records emails, internet activity, phone calls. The police regularly assault and kill people often for doing absolutely nothing wrong and then are defended by the brainwashed, ignorant masses.

  You say N. Korea is a police state, what is that based on? Anything other than Western Media propaganda? I'm not saying it isn't, but speaking to someone that lived there for many years they said it is nothing like it is portrayed.

  There are 10,000s of videos and countless more documentation of the US police state, so its far easier to draw a factual conclusion than somewhere like N. Korea which has little documented outside of the main stream media (which by definition, is almost always propaganda).
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  McKinney Texas pool party?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. social
  2. current

  so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

  my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

  i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

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  zombie dub

  LOL Marvin, people emigrating from Mexico doesn't change the fact that most of the rest of the world looks at the USA as a far from desirable society. Where else can you be left on the sidewalk for dead by an ambulance if you don't have the right insurance. The american dream!